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00:00:30 - Knight discusses his transfer from Hubbard Woods School to North Shore

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses how Ms. Carswell and Perry Dunlap Smith helped decide that he should transfer to North Shore instead of going back to being homeschooled.

Keywords: Marion Carswell; Perry Dunlap Smith

00:02:55 - Knight remembers Perry Dunlap Smith

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Partial Transcript: Well he was smart and he was personable. And he was athletic and I think he came from the proper background so that he could communicate with the well-to-do in a town like Winnetka, which voted in 1936 for Alfred G. Landon by four and a half to one. So I guess you get the idea – in the Roosevelt era... Charismatic is – that was Perry Smith.

Keywords: Perry Dunlap Smith

Subjects: Winnetka, Illinois

00:04:33 - Knight remembers Perry Dunlap Smith's social and sex education course

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Segment Synopsis: Knight remembers that in Perry Dunlap Smith's sex education course Mr. Smith would sometimes use examples in class of real stories about students. He would try to disguise their identity, but did a clumsy job of it. One time Mr. Smith used a story about Knight in class and another student caught on it was about him. So Knight never told Mr. Smith anything personal after that.

Keywords: Fisher Howe; Francis Moore; Franny Moore; Perry Dunlap Smith; Progressive education; sex education

Subjects: Knight discusses Perry Dunlap Smith's sex education course. Mr. Smith would sometimes use examples in class of real stories about students. He would try to disguise their identity, but did a clumsy job of it. One time Mr. Smith used a story about Knight in class

00:06:46 - Knight discusses transitioning into high school

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses everyone around him growing taller, while a few of the boys in the class stayed shorter, including him. He mentions how he was afraid of Ms. Childs (Julia Childs) because she was sarcastic and "used sarcasm as a means of control" in her classroom.

Keywords: Eddie Price; Julia Childs; Mrs. Childs; Tom Dammann

00:08:14 - Knight discusses David Corkran, the teacher he remembers the best

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses North Shore teacher David Corkran. He had Mr. Corkran for homeroom, where instead of discussing current events, they read and discussed The Iliad. He also remembers the "Corkran scowl" or the feared stare a student would get if he or she entered class late.

Keywords: David Corkran

00:10:51 - Knight discusses that courses were co-education

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Partial Transcript: No, everything was co-educational except physical education and Perry Smith's course. I don't think that was co-educational. I think we were separate for that. But other than that, it was co-ed.

Segment Synopsis: Knight remembers that his courses, including homeroom, were co-educational.

00:13:04 - Knight discusses how Perry Smith helped him to make friends

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses how Perry Dunlap Smith setup with Ms. Hale and George Hale that Knight Aldrich would over to the Hale's house to play after school to help him make friends, because he was a little lost and younger than everyone else.

Keywords: George Hale; Mineroo; Perry Dunlap Smith; games

00:15:04 - Knight discusses participating in Gilbert and Sullivan

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Segment Synopsis: Knight talks about how Perry Dunlap Smith pushed him into doing things he wouldn't have otherwise, like singing Coco in the The Mikado, where he had to kiss a girl (Jean O'Brien, one year younger than him) on stage. He also mentions how he participated in a local production of The Gondoliers much later in life and how performing in the plays made him a life-long Gilbert and Sullivan fan. He thought the humor in them appealed to high school students in his era, and that's why they had such an impact on him and so many others of his classmates.

Keywords: Gilbert and Sullivan; Jean O'Brien; Perry Dunlap Smith; The Gondoliers; The Mikado

00:18:58 - Knight discusses rehearsals for plays and the opera

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Segment Synopsis: Knight remembers how the rehearsals for the Gilbert and Sullivan operas were very fun, whereas the rehearsals for other things, like the Christmas play or caroling were not as fun.

Keywords: Gilbert and Sullivan; rehearsal

00:19:24 - Knight discusses caroling to people who were homebound during Christmas time and singing Gilbert and Sullivan songs at Walter Strong's house

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Partial Transcript: They had a big kind of ballroom, the way they did, and – there was a piano there and the music would play the piano and we would sing Gilbert and Sullivan from the time the end of the Christmas carols until we broke up, maybe a couple of hours. And people who had sung different roles would sing their favorite song. And the choruses and the whole thing, it was just such a good experience and we loved it.

Segment Synopsis: Knight remembers going around Winnetka singing Christmas carols. After, they would all go to Walter Strong's house at the end of what was then called Tower Road between Everwoods and Winnetka. Walter Strong was the publisher of the Chicago Daily News and his son of the same name went to North Shore. There they would sing Gilbert and Sullivan songs in the Strong's ballroom. (The 1931 Mirror features an "in memoriam" to Walter Strong.)

Keywords: Christmas; Miss Babcock; Walter Strong; caroling; chorus

00:23:22 - Knight discusses playing football

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Segment Synopsis: Knight mentions that he wasn't so enthusiastic about playing football, and eventually he had to stop playing because he was smaller than the other kids.

Keywords: athletics; football

00:24:09 - Knight discusses being a scholarship student at North Shore during The Great Depression

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Partial Transcript: The Depression hit us and I – at the beginning of the ninth grade is when I really kind of began to sort of blossom and Bill Van Horne and Bo Kreer [George Kreer] were two scholarship boys from Skokie School who had been given scholarships. And it's no accident that those two were my closest friends all through high school. And there was a difference between those who had chauffeurs and those who – and part of it was the Indian Hill Club. Those who had chauffeurs belonged to the Indian Hill Club and I never felt anybody – any objection to giving me – to taking me over there and signing for me and that sort of thing, but I felt it you know. I couldn't reciprocate. The idea of a poor boy or the scholarship boy is good in theory but it's sometimes a little hard on the scholarship boy.

Keywords: Bill Van Horne; Bo Greer; George Greer; Indian Hill Club; scholarship

00:25:27 - Knight discusses his father losing his business during the Depression

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Partial Transcript: My father had lost his business. He – he started a business, he saved his money, he'd been a salesman. He saved his money, started a real estate business in Winnetka and he figured it would take him two years to 26:00make it a going concern. So he had it all set up. And what did he do? He started it in October of 1928, one year later the real estate collapsed totally and there was just no hope for it. And he was out of a job for five years.

Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses how his father started a real estate business in Winnetka in October of 1928 only to lose everything when the Depression hit one year later.

Keywords: Business; Great Depression; Real Estate; Winnetka, Illinois

Subjects: The Great Depression; Winnetka, Illinois

00:26:10 - Knight discusses his scholarship and how being a scholarship student made him feel as a teen

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Segment Synopsis: Knight suspects that Perry Dunlap Smith may have orchestrated for Laird Bell to pay for his last two years at North Shore. Knowing he was on scholarship, and couldn't afford tuition like most of his classmates "added to his cumulative deficiencies" and gave him a sense of not belonging.

Keywords: Fisher Howe; Francis Moore; George Hale; Laird Bell; Scholarship; Tom Dammann; Winnetka, Illinois

00:28:17 - Knight discusses learning to handle money at North Shore

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses how he gained experience handling money through depositing checks for his lunches at North Shore and the lunch moms, like Mrs. Howe, telling him how much he spent each day.

Keywords: Finance; Lunch; Mrs. Howe

00:29:48 - Knight discusses drama at North Shore

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses working through his fear of public speaking by performing on stage at North Shore in Shakespeare plays every year.

Keywords: Shakespeare; drama; performing arts; plays

00:31:28 - Knight discusses Live and Serve

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Partial Transcript: And the students, the people who were in the play, the idea that I was directing anything was really most scary and kind of unreal, but I did do it. And then the night – the day before the play was to begin, the guy that played Androcles came down with scarlet fever. And I was the logical person to take over for him because I knew every line already. And there wasn't anybody else, at least there didn't seem to be. So I ended up in twenty-four hours going on stage as Androcles, as the main character in the play. And in some ways, Bill Van Horne was the Androcles. He was quite tall and big fellow. And I was quite short and 34:00that's the right part for Androcles. And my wife in the thing was Jean Ward who was a head taller than I was and much bigger and it was sort of like [unintelligible] and Coco, the big threatening woman and the poor little guy. And it worked very well. And I got a boost out of that. I got enough of a boost so that I could attack college with so much different – in comparison to my colleagues, other people in the class. I felt – I didn't have this feeling of inadequacy and so on that I had at the beginning of North Shore. And I think Perry Smith's efforts were – and the whole school went along with it because I guess if you don't go – didn't go along with Perry Smith you went to New Trier or somewhere. And I think that helped.

Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses how the school "served" him well in giving him opportunities to get outside of his comfort zone, such as when he directed the play "Androcles and the Lion" and at last minute he had to fill in for the lead Androcles who had come down with scarlet fever. He believes that opportunities like that one helped him grow the confidence he didn't have before coming to North Shore, and that he needed to be successful in college and later in life.

Keywords: Androcles and the Lion; Live and Serve; Performing Arts; Perry Dunlap Smith; drama; play

Subjects: Live and Serve; Performing Arts

00:35:55 - Knight remembers an impactful moment in his life in 1929

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Segment Synopsis: Knight remembers when a girl's father committed suicide after the stock market crash in October 1929. One day she was walking toward him on campus, and he turned away and didn't say anything to her. That moment, of not knowing what to say and feeling so guilty he didn't say anything, stuck with him so closely he thinks it may have impacted his choice to study and focus on grief in his career in psychiatry.

Subjects: 1929; Black Friday; The Great Depression

00:39:50 - Knight remembers his North Shore teachers

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Segment Synopsis: Knight remembers his physics teacher Howard E. A. Jones.

Keywords: David Corkran; Howard E.A. Jones

00:40:07 - Knight discusses his career path, from wanting to be an architect to psychology

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses how he got derailed from becoming an architect in college when he took an advanced physics course that he didn't excel in. He later focused more on math and statistics, and chose to work in psychology, and later pre-med and psychiatry.

Keywords: Psychology; Wesleyan

Subjects: College

00:45:37 - Knight discusses his book Quest for a Star

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Segment Synopsis: Knight discusses his book Quest for a Star, about the Civil War era letters and diaries of his Great-grandfather who was a political appointee during the Civil War.

Keywords: Civil War; History; North Shore Author